Agenda and draft minutes

Venue: Herne Bay Baptist Church, 105-109 High Street, Herne Bay CT6 5LA

Contact: Maria Short  01227 862009, Email: democracy@canterbury.gov.uk

Items
No. Item

284.

Meet and greet session

Meet and greet session, with formal business starting at 7pm.

Minutes:

A meet and greet session took place for the first thirty minutes of the Forum.

285.

Apologies for absence

Minutes:

Apologies for absence had been received from City Councillors Cook and Watkins and County Councillor I Thomas.

 

An apology for lateness had been received from Councillor Carnac.

286.

Declarations of any interests by councillors or officers

Councillors are reminded that the code of conduct as set out in the constitution still applies at these meetings. This means you are required to make declarations relating disclosable pecuniary interests and other significant interests and that you should consider any other voluntary announcements you would like to make.

Minutes:

The Chairman made a voluntary announcement that he had recently been on a speed awareness course.

287.

Minutes of the meeting held on Tuesday 11 June 2019 pdf icon PDF 69 KB

To confirm the minutes as a true record.

Minutes:

The minutes of the previous meeting were confirmed as a true record.

288.

Town wide 20mph speed limit for Herne Bay pdf icon PDF 97 KB

This discussion topic was requested by the Forum members.

 

To note the report of the Transportation Team Leader.

Minutes:

Ruth Goudie, the Transportation Team Leader was in attendance to introduce the report on the town wide 20mph speed limit for Herne Bay.

 

She explained that the authority to implement speed limits lies with Kent County Council and the difference between a speed limit and speed zone. A speed limit being signage and a speed zone having signage and additional traffic calming measures such as speed bumps and chicanes.  The method to implement a speed limit trial would be to make a specific recommendation to the Joint Transportation Board (which includes the County Councillors who represent the Canterbury district) which would be able to consider the recommendation.

 

The Forum noted the report and commented on the proposal for a town wide speed limit for Herne Bay with the Transportation Team Leader providing points of clarification where required; comments included:

 

  • 20mph speed limits should only be implemented on appropriate roads, i.e. near schools, accident hot spots, etc.
  • The main issue was considered to be the behaviour and attitude of those speeding and could be addressed by implementing speed limits or zones with chicanes.
  • More police were needed to enforce speed limits, however it was confirmed that the provision of police resources was out of the city council’s control and that speed zones were designed to be self enforcing.
  • If a lower speed limit were to be implemented there would need to be budget allocation to allow for any speed zones to be removed if they were unsuccessful.
  • If a trial was successful, the implementation of other limits or zones should interconnect with each other to avoid fragmented speed limits throughout the town.
  • Herne Bay is becoming popular with tourists and pedestrians, a restrictive speed limit would slow traffic down and provide an opportunity to do something for the area and encourage cyclists on the roads but it would need to be enforced. 
  • Introducing low speed limits could be an opportunity to encourage greener areas, lower emissions and a slower pace in line with the city council’s agenda to address climate change.
  • A Herne Bay speed watch could be established with a camera to measure the speeds and contact KCC with the information gathered which would reduce costs. One way streets, chicanes and increased on street parking would also help to keep speeds down.
  • Some members of the public commented that some of the detail of the report, particularly related to the policies of KCC, is out of date.  It was confirmed that the city council had requested an update from the county council but no response had been received.
  • The Forum can recommend a trial area to see if it works and ask the Joint Transportation Board to look at this request, to implement a speed limit for the whole of Herne Bay would have a huge cost and need careful consideration.
  • The relevant information regarding suitable roads would be held by the county council, who would know which roads or streets would be suitable for a speed limit trial, the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 288.

289.

Future items

To note the following items for future meetings of the forum:

 

·        Litter and Flytipping presentation

·        Annual On-Street Parking Review

 

Please note that the Local Plan Review and ambitions for the Town has been removed from the future items list for now, as there is a formal approach to the Local Plan consultation and the Policy & Resources Committee will consider the Local Plan review timetable in the Autumn.

Minutes:

The future items were noted.

290.

Monitoring sheet pdf icon PDF 48 KB

To note the monitoring sheet.

Minutes:

The monitoring sheet was noted with a member of the Forum highlighting that the change of location of the funfair was welcomed and had a positive impact on neighbouring residents.

291.

Date of next meeting

6.30pm on Tuesday, 19 November 2019 at the Herne Bay Baptist Church, 105 High Street, Herne Bay, CT6 5LA.

Minutes:

6:30pm on Tuesday, 19 November 2019.

292.

Any other urgent business to be heard in public

Minutes:

Some members of the public raised concerns regarding the management of Herne Bay Pier, however councillors confirmed that the operation of another organisation was outside of the Forum’s remit and could not be discussed.  

293.

Any other urgent business to be heard following the exclusion of the press and public

It will be necessary to pass a resolution to exclude the press and public before business can be taken under this item.

Minutes:

There was no other urgent business to be heard following the exclusion of the press and public.